can personality exist without society?
do hermits have personalities?
what is the personality of our society?
can you live in society and still be outside of it?
can you be anti-social without being criminal?
is it ok to be angry at society most of the time?
do all poor people hate society and all rich people like it?
who decides on the things that our society values or stands for?
what is the role of art in this society?
Could my answers to these questions really make a difference?
(These questions came from Jacques de Beaufort} Will he ever post again?
(These questions came from Jacques de Beaufort} Will he ever post again?
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I preview the blogs I read in Bloglines where your images come up without the framing line around them, which I realize that I prefer with these particular 'blow jobs' (can I say that?) Just wanted to point out how much freer and more important they become with great space around them. Other point... I find them a perfect pairing with comments such as those listed. Could it be that they are looking for text?
um, thanks for the link lily.
kj-I'm sure there is a way to remove the framing line in blogger. I'll look into it. The whole framing issue has been bugging me this week. The gallery sent me a floor plan so that I can start thinking about what to hang or bring etc. The cost of framing even ten drawings this size in any respectable way is insane. They do need space, you are right. I like how the best ones call to me from far away, across the studio, they don't have to be bigger, they work well from far away and they call to me to look closer and they reveal more and more with each advancing step.
Does anyone think the blow-job factor is a barrier? I use gravity and mist (atomized water) a lot more than a straw. Are these always going to look like grade school craft projects?
Ooh text. I hope so. Shin Yu Pi has been dropping poems over at my flickr page. . .something will likely come of that. . .
Thanks for spending the time Karen
I don't think you should frame them. Pin them to the wall as unobtrusively as possible. Let them trail off into the surrounding space.
To get rid of the borders here on your page, go into your template and edit this section:
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As far as your blowjob paintings, every time you put one up I try to think about how I'd duplicate it, so I see misting, pre-soaking the paper, and blowing. Gravity I wouldn't have guessed, but it's not a huge stretch.
I think it's fine, not a barrier at all. Natural processes guided by the human hand can be very intriguing.
As far as Jacques goes, I'm afraid I might have scared him off. He got very angry when something I wrote about him via e-mail to Stephanie ended up being the anchor for one of her Pretty Lady rants. Then a little while later we were having what I thought was an interesting conversation on one of his blog posts. I had written out some things I thought came out really well, but when I went back to see if the conversation had continued, I found Jacques had actually deleted the entire post and comment thread.
Now, maybe I'm giving myself too much blame. Maybe a lot of things went into his decision. And maybe that one post got eaten by Blogger. It's possible.
It's a shame he's not posting any more, though. I liked debating with him. He was interesting.
Didn't John Cage say that art should be freed from it's prisons (frames!)?
I should try to find that quote because I love it. I kind of feel that the people who buy art are the ones who are worried about how to hang it...that's not an artists "job"...but then when people look at t it they think "unprofessional" "sophomoric" when it's not framed...there must be a way around this no?
I love the questions.
I have one answer...yes, you can be a anti-social and not break the law. I think a lot of peopel would fit into that category. The other questions...I need a drink before I answer!
You should do what Whiting once did at Traver when he first started showing his work. He Yes Pasted the drawings to canvas on stretchers at the same size as the paper. It gave them a painterly feel. As these have that quality, I suggest the same process. The price of framing was one of the reason's I worked at a frame shop a few years ago, getting things at wholesale, and having a shop to build them in after work, well it ruled! Good luck with your decision!
First of all, I notice that I mispelled Shin Yu's last name. It is Pai, not Pi. Dork.
thanks chris for the tech hit. I think it was chris ashley who told me about these magnetic mounts for paper. I'm going to be looking for them soon. As far as the pretty lady rants go. . . whoa. That was one fun read. how can you stand to read my blog? Just look at the pictures I suppose. but damn, I might have to twist that exchange up to the surface so everyone can read it.
Thanks Ms. Minx. It is a fine line, isn't it?
Harold, I've helped Whites with more than one of those stressfull mount jobs. Lots of brayer work and bubble popping and sticky fingers and Reineer Beer.
hey dudes
No Chris..you didn't scare me off..I've just been absorbed in non-virtual matters. Some times I like to streamline the blog and leave the stuff that seems more "meaty"..
I wanted to get away from the "Artworld" for a while..at least in my mind.
The issue of society and the individual still seems topical..especially given yesterdays bloody rampage. Reading some passages at High Low and Larval Subjects seem pertinent as well. Artists have a particularly odd relationship with society..it's hard to comment on with the proper decorum given that we are all artists. I vacillate wildly in my attitudes here, and find it perenially problematic to make a coherent statement without sounding divisive or bitter..which is one of the reasons I needed to check out.
I think I'll read up a little on Lord Byron..there might be something there..or maybe alternately Paradise Lost.
And I think it could be related to the Hollywood narrative of artist as misfit..se "Pollocl" or "Basquiat". No movie ever made about Matisse or Rockwell...
Steve I can't wait for the answers..
Jacques sez:
No Chris..you didn't scare me off.
That's good.
I am a little upset that you deleted that post with our conversation.
I just wanted to not think about the artworld and that was a reminder
Thoughts on framing... tear/deckle the edges if they aren't already, sandwich between much larger plexi cut by Home Depot or whoever, drill holes inside the four corners and bolt appropriately (chrome would be nice.) You figure out how to hang them so it doesn't show. I think a minimalist approach is the way to go, no matter. And whoever said the final framing should be left up to the buyer was right on!
PS... a higher quality plexi can be had from AmericanFrame.com but you'll pay for it!
Funny you should recommend the glass sandwich framing. The two drawings Steve sent me are framed that way, between two pieces of glass with a plain black wooden frame. The glass is the mat -- the drawings just float. In fact I think they're called float frames. I bought them because, a, they were on sale, and b, I wanted to be able to see the backs as well as the fronts so I could show people where Steve wrote I should rotate them every so often.
To hang them I moved a string of paper hearts my daughter had cut out, colored, and hung up on the wall. She got mad at me when she saw that. Apparently the hearts were to show where her art was supposed to be displayed -- as if her drawings aren't all over the house. She's got almost as many up as I do.
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